Last night, I watched Swimming Pool (Amazon), a rather ambiguous movie a la Mulholland Drive (Amazon) or 8 1/2 (Amazon). I enjoy such movies because they make wonderful vehicles for discussion. Of the many interesting posts on this movie, I think the interpretation that the Julia we see for most of the movie is Sarah’s creation makes the most sense.
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but... said,
June 13, 2004 @ 11:58 pm
Reading your comments, I was set to wondering whether the true ambiguity in “Swimming Pool” was intentional or not. If it were intentional, then I would have expected it to be more clear (call me plebian); that is to offer up solutions that could readily be discussed in terms of the values represented in each or among the varied interpretations. But “pool” instead seems to posess an ambiguity that comes from a near miss – a statement that the author has attempted but failed to communicate. Though for the author the work may be ambiguous, the audience is left with the inexplicable.
le grand thÙ said,
June 13, 2004 @ 11:58 pm
i loved this movie. this is great to see that you have in your favorite with a friend like harry. is it the movie i think it is. a french movie with the wonderful sergi lopez and the strange Lucas.
about swimming pool maybe Ozon do not know and leave us with the same doubt. is it imagination, is it kind of an other child…
le grand th said,
June 13, 2004 @ 11:58 pm
i loved this movie. this is great to see that you have in your favorite with a friend like harry. is it the movie i think it is. a french movie with the wonderful sergi lopez and the strange Lucas.
about swimming pool maybe Ozon do not know and leave us with the same doubt. is it imagination, is it kind of an other child…
le grand thÙ said,
June 19, 2004 @ 9:25 am
the dreamers is not exactly a french movie. (haven’t seen it) Bernardo bertulucci is an international italian. But this is true it happens in france, paris, the actors are both french (with this american i’ve seen once in Montmartre- so “clichÈ” but true)…
maybe it’s just that the egg is an image of perfection and possibility. It’s sweet too and maybe kind of erotic. don’t know.
In Harry is it really only an erotic symbol. i do not remember very well. for me it’s more kind of the “everything object”.
le grand th said,
June 19, 2004 @ 9:25 am
the dreamers is not exactly a french movie. (haven’t seen it) Bernardo bertulucci is an international italian. But this is true it happens in france, paris, the actors are both french (with this american i’ve seen once in Montmartre- so “clich?” but true)…
maybe it’s just that the egg is an image of perfection and possibility. It’s sweet too and maybe kind of erotic. don’t know.
In Harry is it really only an erotic symbol. i do not remember very well. for me it’s more kind of the “everything object”.
kadavy said,
June 19, 2004 @ 3:58 pm
Yes, le grande, that is the one. I have noticed in that movie, as well as another french movie, “The Dreamers,” there is a recurrence of eggs as a symbol relating to sexuality or fertility.
kadavy said,
June 19, 2004 @ 5:40 pm
Maybe the intention for the egg was different in A Friend Like Harry (Amazon) than it was in The Dreamers, since the eggs are broken with much less delicacy, but given the context of their presentation, I like to think there was a similarity. You’re right that it’s not a French movie, and in an American novel, Ernest Hemmingway’s A Farewell to Arms *SPOILERS*: he is essentially forced to eat fried eggs, served on top of cooked ham no less, after losing his never-born son. Though some remark on his sparse use of symbolism, I think this was an example of him using it.
On a side note to this side note of a side note, here is some background on Christian Symbolism and the Egg.
le grand thÙ said,
June 19, 2004 @ 5:56 pm
ok you win. you’re so strong on the egg subject.
let’s talk about some other movie without any egg…
but maybe we will discover that the eggs are everywhere even in the incredible “tentation de saint antoine” (sorry don’t know the title in english) of the great hieronymus bosch (that’s connelly who calls his caracter with this kind of great name. his Hero is Hieronimus Bosh)… pffiooou…
don’t know where my mind is going. sorry.
i’m tired.
well… stop.
le grand th said,
June 19, 2004 @ 5:56 pm
ok you win. you’re so strong on the egg subject.
let’s talk about some other movie without any egg…
but maybe we will discover that the eggs are everywhere even in the incredible “tentation de saint antoine” (sorry don’t know the title in english) of the great hieronymus bosch (that’s connelly who calls his caracter with this kind of great name. his Hero is Hieronimus Bosh)… pffiooou…
don’t know where my mind is going. sorry.
i’m tired.
well… stop.